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11 July 2009 @ 04:15 pm
Pandemonium Books & Games Buys Your Move Games - a Q&A  
So, Pandemonium Books & Games acquired Your Move Games in Davis Square this week.  People have had a lot of questions, and so I am repeating here with answers.  :)

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Q:  Whaaaa?!?!?

A: Yeah, we're a little surprised too.

Q: When did this happen?


A: Just this last week, pretty much.  Negotiations were Monday, contracts were drafted Tuesday and Wednesday, and then signed
Thursday (7/09/09)!  This happened blindingly fast.  Much thanks to Vivian Abraham, legal counsel to the Boston geek community for her invaluable aid during negotiations and for drawing up contracts that can be read by non-lawyers!

Q: How did this happen?

A: Rob Dougherty, the founder and owner of Your Move Games, approached us looking to sell his store.   Rob also runs the really big Magic:
The Gathering events in the Boston area and designs and produces games like Battlefront and Epic CCG.    Rob realized that he hadn't been giving the store the attention it really needed to prosper, and so he came to us.

Q: Why you?  Not to be indelicate, but wasn't Pandemonium dead in the water 2-3 years ago, and begging for help?

A: Yes, we were.  But a lot of people really helped save Pandemonium from destruction and turn things around.  They are:

  1) All the folks who bought the store t-shirts in February 2007.  I cannot thank them enough!  Eight hundred people participated in the
Great T-Shirt Drive, allowing the store to raise enough money to get the IRS off our back and keep the store afloat.  Wear those shirts
with pride!  They saved the store.

  2) The 'Arvard 'Ard Boyz, who came to Pandemonium after Games Workshop closed its store in Harvard Square.  As a group, they raised
Pandemonium's sales overnight at a time we needed a little extra wind in our sales.

  3)  Karyn my fiancee and my family, whose advice and support have been unstinting from Day 1.

  4) Store manager Christopher Melville, whose efforts over the past year put the store over the top and into the black.

  5) And always all of Pandemonium's customers, both the ones who followed the store from Harvard Sq., and the ones who discovered us in Central.  I can never thank you enough!

We still do have a lot of debt right now, but we are on top of it and are making our payments on time, with a little left over.  Knock wood!


Q: Okay, so now what?  What are your plans?

A: Well, not much is going to happen in July.  There are a lot of events going on this month at both stores, and we don't want to
disrupt any of them.  Also, we need some time to poke around a bit: do a thorough inventory, talk to the customers, etc.

We have a LOT of planning to do.  The general idea is that we will coordinate and specialize the events and inventories of both stores.
Our philosophy is that it is better to have a basic selection of something in one store and a truly awesome selection in the other than
to have mediocre selections in both.  By coordinating events, we hope to increase our diversity of offerings and further build Boston's
gaming community.

We are definitely open to suggestions!  Please head over to the forums at http://pandemoniumbooks.com/forum/ and select the "Feedback" topic.   Let us know what you would like to see at Pandemonium  and at Your Move Games!

Q: Are you going to spiff up the Your Moves space at all?

A:  Jeepers yes!  We don't have much cash on hand right now, but a little spiff will go a long way.  We will also be re-doing Your Move's
website (at www.yourmovegames.net, but it is not up yet) and also starting up its own email newsletter.

Q: So, you are keeping the Your Move Games name?  The store in Davis Sq. isn't becoming Pandemonium East or something?

A: Nope, that location remains Your Move Games.  Rob was insistent on this matter and I fully agree, because Your Move Games is a different place than Pandemonium.  Pandemonium is a science fiction store with a lot of games.  Your Move Games is pure games store.

Q. How about store memberships and discount policies?  Separate and different, separate and the same, or completely identical?

A:  Hopefully completely identical, but each location has different store software, and we will need to figure out which one we want to go
with, and that will determine our membership policies.


Once again I would like to thank everyone for your support over the years and for your patience over the coming transition period.  I am certain that we will screw up at least once in a big way before things are running smoothly.  If we do, please let us know!  Feedback is very important.  Please comment either below or at the Feedback topic at  pandemoniumbooks.com/forum/. 

Now to work!
 
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regisrmd on July 11th, 2009 08:55 pm (UTC)
i, for one, welcome our new capitalist-aquisitionist-gaming-scifi overlords.
ruthling: alienruthling on July 11th, 2009 11:29 pm (UTC)
word.
Doug Orleansdougo on July 11th, 2009 09:24 pm (UTC)
Seems like a good thing, if Rob's heart wasn't into running the store. Do you also own the Your Move Games line of games? Or just the store?
smoagendashsmoagendash on July 12th, 2009 03:15 am (UTC)
Just the store. We actually have to pay a small monthly fee for use of the name "Your Move Games".
a8a0r8on808 on July 11th, 2009 09:37 pm (UTC)
Just out of complete and utter luck, I am wearing my Pandemonium t-shirt right now. It's been one of my favs ever since. I like to wear it when traveling because people always ask about it. I think time for another shirt drive!
D. Fennelfennel on July 11th, 2009 10:29 pm (UTC)
Okay, wow. I walked into Your Move Games on Thursday afternoon for the first time in... about a year? And the guy behind the counter was telling someone that the place was under new management because Pandemonium had bought it. I thought that sounded like a big change and I was out of the loop if I was just learning it-- apparently I was actually getting the news about as early as there was news to get.
Oy Vader, Dark Rabbi of the Sitharib on July 11th, 2009 10:32 pm (UTC)
Congrats!
rainoftoads: profitrainoftoads on July 11th, 2009 11:22 pm (UTC)
Heh, I should buy another T-Shirt. I'm too "curvy" for the one I bought in 2007.
Stick Figure with A Turtlesallythetimid on July 11th, 2009 11:45 pm (UTC)
I'm appalled that the direction you decided to go in was even farther from where I live, but congratulations on the new location!
(Anonymous) on July 12th, 2009 04:30 pm (UTC)
Locations of the stores
Just in case it wasn't clear, We will be operating both Your Move Games in Davis square and Pandemonium Books & Games in Central square.
Coscos on July 12th, 2009 11:30 pm (UTC)
Re: Locations of the stores
It was pretty clear from all the Q&A about what will be the same and different between the two locations... :)
Stick Figure with A Turtlesallythetimid on July 12th, 2009 11:47 pm (UTC)
Re: Locations of the stores
Yeah, I got that. I was kidding.
Stick Figure with A Turtlesallythetimid on July 13th, 2009 12:08 am (UTC)
Re: Locations of the stores
Actually, I will admit that from sounds of words like "lease" and "I THINK WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THE OTHER ROOM" and disappearance of Tyler and Chris for over an hour during the inventory I was a bit worried that they were just plain moving, and was very excited and pleased for them to see this post this morning. Perhaps I should've included more of an indication that my initial comment was purely joking in nature.
unquietsoul5unquietsoul5 on July 12th, 2009 12:33 am (UTC)
Well, that's definitely an unexpected turn of events.

miekecmiekec on July 12th, 2009 02:02 am (UTC)
Of all the ways it could have happened, not a bad way to go. Sounds like a win for all - including us games and sci-fi geeks. Go you!
Autumn Riordaninfinitemorning on July 12th, 2009 05:16 am (UTC)
Is there any way we could get more specialization in the event space? I know signings are likely to continue taking place at Pandemonium (it just makes sense: the event space is larger, IIRC, and Pandemonium is the SF specialty bookstore that also sells games), but one thing I've noticed in the last few months is that both stores are routinely packed with crowds of CCG and miniatures players and there frankly just seem to be too many RPG and social groups that want to use the space and not enough room.

If a little more RPG-focused space could be set aside in one store or the other (i.e. dining room-sized tables with chairs as opposed to big terrain tables, or even the return of the Couches of Doom for more storytelling-focused games that don't need as much table space), or even if a couple nights a week in one location could be designated 'open RPG nights,' I think that'd go a long way toward improving the state of community roleplaying. (I realize Pandemonium also offers space on reserve, with limitations, or used to, but is there even enough space to offer to new groups that want to go that route? Every time I come in -- especially on evenings and weekends -- it seems like the place is so crowded it's hard to shop downstairs, let alone find a place to game with some friends.)
Andrew "Aethan" Frenchaethan on July 12th, 2009 03:57 pm (UTC)
I totally agree. I would do a lot more running of public games if I felt like the space in either spot was more friendly for RPGs. When I've run games at either place, I always feel like I'm in competition with the CCG games going on.
Craiggilby123 on July 12th, 2009 07:37 pm (UTC)
Well, since Your Move Games will likely (to some degree) be associated with the former team of Magic playing pro's, I doubt that the Magic crowd there is going to subside much. Best bet is probably to have a RPG night so the time is set aside for the tables to be used for that purpose. If you're looking to set aside a table nightly for RPG's, though, I don't foresee that going well.
Autumn Riordaninfinitemorning on July 13th, 2009 12:14 am (UTC)
There's already one alcove at Pandemonium more suited to RPGs than anything, and the return of the Couches of Doom to their previous configuration would give us a second area suitable to RPGs and discussion groups. I'm not sure why the couches were moved to sit along the wall in the first place, except, of course, for the fact that it gives the wargamers more room. I guess I'm just not sure why a couple tables reserved for RPGs would be a big sacrifice.

But yes, even one or two nights a week designated as RPG nights, where anyone who wanted to play CCGs or wargames was encouraged to hit up YMG instead, would honestly be a move in the right direction, I think. If I knew I could come in on, say, Monday nights or Saturday nights (just tossing random days out, here) and have a reasonable guarantee of table space, I know I'd play more at the store. As it is, I'm in a Mage group that's barely even squeezing in a session at Pandemonium every couple of weeks, and other than that, I'm pretty much in for D&D Game Days and that's it.

(Looking over Pandemonium's website, BTW, I can find no sign of the previous program for reserving tables. Has Pandemonium just withdrawn it altogether?)
Karynkoshmom on July 13th, 2009 04:13 am (UTC)
(I'm Tyler's fiancee)
To reserve a table just talk to Tyler (or whoever's at the register).

I personally liked the Couches of Doom, but at this point they are plenty decrepit and in need of major cleaning, if not replacement. Opening the room up by putting all against the walls did give a lot more space for different types of gaming.

Plans for YMG are still in the formative stage, it being less than 4 days already since the acquisition. But more RPG is always in Tyler's mind.
zomboyzomboy on July 15th, 2009 06:12 pm (UTC)
As a regular there, I can say that those couches are getting funky. I am all for keeping the space comfortable, but I'm not convinced that something that requires as much maintanence as couches to remain mold/mildew/gamer funk free is the best idea for a high traffic basement gaming area.
andrewfelandandrewfeland on July 28th, 2009 07:17 pm (UTC)
If you're already going with Ikea for shelving, let me recommend their couches. Get couch frames and two or three slipcovers per couch, and just wash them (the cloth slipcovers are machine-washable) and keep them in regular rotation. MUCH cheaper than a normal (non-Ikea) couch, and more durable. They also sell very basic chairs with slipcovers that are unbelievably cheap.
the name of dogenochs_fable on July 13th, 2009 12:44 pm (UTC)
I vote for more ventilation for both basement spaces in both stores. I'm a huge fan of both stores but seriously, those rooms get a bit funky fast.
Michaelfireheart on July 12th, 2009 07:47 am (UTC)
This sounds like it has great potential for awesome. Good luck with it.
Nick Mamatasnihilistic_kid on July 12th, 2009 02:11 pm (UTC)
One more reason I miss Boston! Good luck with the new digs!
JoDiamondsjodiamonds on July 12th, 2009 06:42 pm (UTC)
Best of luck to all involved, buyers, sellers, etc. Hope it works out for everyone!
moonpuppy61: Modronmoonpuppy61 on July 12th, 2009 07:04 pm (UTC)
Two Comments
First: Hooray!

Second: when will there be new T-shirt designs?
smoagendashsmoagendash on July 12th, 2009 07:19 pm (UTC)
Re: Two Comments
1) Thanks!

2)We actually have a design by Phil Foglio, but that project has been side-tracked by recent events.
moonpuppy61: Modronmoonpuppy61 on July 13th, 2009 01:22 am (UTC)
Re: Two Comments
Ah, new clothes! Soon I hope but I'll be patient.
awbryan: yayawbryan on July 14th, 2009 01:03 pm (UTC)
Foglio?!
Wow, nothing but the best for ya'll!
Geoffrey H. Goodwin -- I Can See in the Darkreadingthedark on July 12th, 2009 10:17 pm (UTC)
Wow.
nalltwdnalltwd on July 15th, 2009 04:38 pm (UTC)
Does this mean Ardboyz tournaments will clash much less with the Magic folks?
smoagendashsmoagendash on July 15th, 2009 05:10 pm (UTC)
Well, the problem there is that Games Workshop has this very unfortunate habit of scheduling their tournaments on the very same days that Wizards of the Coast has scheduled theirs.

We'll try to work something out.
scackmgackmscackmgackm on July 15th, 2009 04:55 pm (UTC)
Fantastic News!!
As a member of the 'Arvard 'Ardboyz I want to thank you for the mention!

I think the move to Pandemonium was also extremely good for our club as we were able to diverge from playing strictly Games Workshop wargames and branch out into all sorts of other systems which has kept things vibrant, which hopefully makes the club look attract to other wargamers and which then leads to more membership, more foot traffic, and hopefully lots more business for Pandemonium. :)

As someone who frequented the old Garage location since he was an undergrad at B.U. in 1991 it makes me really glad that Pandemonium is "home base" for us.
smoagendashsmoagendash on July 15th, 2009 05:13 pm (UTC)
Re: Fantastic News!!
And hopefully we'll be able to schedule a weekly event at Your Move Games that will complement our regular Thursday night at PBG
scackmgackmscackmgackm on July 15th, 2009 08:13 pm (UTC)
Re: Fantastic News!!
How much space is in YMG now? The last time I went there, maybe a year ago, it looked like you'd be hard-pressed to get more than two 6' by 4' wargaming tabletops in there, which is the size we need to support 40K, WFB, and Flames of War, the three big games in the club at the moment...
Frankenmonstrous Cyborg Creatureetana on July 15th, 2009 08:23 pm (UTC)
Sadly the staff at Your Move Games is getting canned....sucks mightily.
I'd say this is a capitalist overload move if I ever saw one.
Jasonjadasc on July 16th, 2009 01:45 am (UTC)
Actually, most of the staff is staying on, at least for the time being.
(Anonymous) on July 17th, 2009 06:55 pm (UTC)
20% GW discount at Pandemonium plz.
Improve the websites, allow some kind of web form for contacting rather than relying on emailing, which can be more of a problem with spam filters, etc.

andrewfelandandrewfeland on July 28th, 2009 07:14 pm (UTC)
I don't know how I missed this when it first came up--and yeah, I pull my t-shirt out at least once a week. This is great news, congratulations!
Doctor TOC: B&Wdoctor_toc on July 29th, 2009 01:09 pm (UTC)
Fantastic news! Nice to see Tyler's Empire growing. Bravo!
smoagendashsmoagendash on July 29th, 2009 03:36 pm (UTC)
Bristol's next!
Matt Listenermattlistener on October 2nd, 2010 10:07 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately, the next chapter in this story is that Your Move Games closed its doors on 6/27/2010.

http://community.livejournal.com/davis_square/2242790.html
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